Jujutsu equivalents, if anyone is curious:
What Changes the Most
jj log --no-graph -r 'ancestors(trunk()) & committer_date(after:"1 year ago")' \
-T 'self.diff().files().map(|f| f.path() ++ "\n").join("")' \
| sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -20
jj log --no-graph -r 'ancestors(trunk()) & ~merges()' \
-T 'self.author().name() ++ "\n"' \
| sort | uniq -c | sort -nr
jj log --no-graph -r 'ancestors(trunk()) & description(regex:"(?i)fix|bug|broken")' \
-T 'self.diff().files().map(|f| f.path() ++ "\n").join("")' \
| sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -20
jj log --no-graph -r 'ancestors(trunk())' \
-T 'self.committer().timestamp().format("%Y-%m") ++ "\n"' \
| sort | uniq -c
jj log --no-graph \
-r 'ancestors(trunk()) & committer_date(after:"1 year ago") & description(regex:"(?i)revert|hotfix|emergency|rollback")'
To me, it makes jujutsu look like the Nix of VCSes.
Not meaning to offend anyone: Nix is cool, but adds complexity. And as a disclaimer: I used jujutsu for a few months and went back to git. Mostly because git is wired in my fingers, and git is everywhere. Those examples of what jujutsu can do and not git sound nice, but in those few months I never remotely had a need for them, so it felt overkill for me.
Tbf you wouldn't use/switch to jj for (because of) those kind of commands, and are quite the outlier in the grand list of reasons to use jj. However the option to use the revset language in that manner is a high-ranking reason to use jj in my opinion.
The most frequent "complex" command I use is to find commits in my name that are unsigned, and then sign them (this is owing to my workflow with agents that commit on my behalf but I'm not going to give agents my private key!)
I hadn't even spared a moment to consider the git equivalent but I would humbly expect it to be quite obtuse.jj log -r 'mine() & ~signed()' # or if yolo mode... jj sign -r 'mine() & ~signed()'Actually, signing was one of the annoying parts of jujutsu for me: I sign with a security key, and the way jujutsu handled signing was very painful to me (I know it can be configured and I tried a few different ways, but it felt inherent to how jujutsu handles commits (revisions?)).
The only reasonable way to use signing in jj is with the sign-on-push config https://docs.jj-vcs.dev/latest/config/#automatically-signing... rather than as commits are made
Why? I have my signing behavior set to own and I haven't noticed any issues, but I don't actually rely on signatures for much.
If you need to type in a password to unlock your keychain (e.g. default behavior for gpg-agent), then signing commits one at a time constantly is annoying.
Does "own" try to sign working copy snapshot commits too? That would greatly increase the number and frequency of signatures.
Ah, I use my SSH key to sign my commits and I don't have a password on my SSH key.
> Does "own" try to sign working copy snapshot commits too?
Yes
It's the dvorak of git... Maybe more efficient but incompatible with everyone else and a very loud vocal minority.
You can find this pattern again and again. How many redditors say 120fps is essential for gaming or absolutely require a mechanical keyboard?
Looks like the Perl of Git too. Those commands are wild compared to vanilla git.
It's totally compatible though, and that's a big selling point. I use jj and nobody else at my work uses it and that has never been an issue.
I think the "incompatible" was more in the dvorak sense, which I believe is that whenever you are on another computer, it most likely won't have dvorak.
For jujutsu, it's fine on your own computer, but you probably have to use git in the CI or on remote servers. And you probably started with git, so moving to jujutsu was an added effort (similar to dvorak).
It doesn’t support submodules. So no, not totally compatible.
Yeah I think that dvorak is a good example, too.
I don't get the mechanical keyboard one, though. I am fine with any keyboard, I just like my mechanical keyboard at home. Just like I am fine with any chair, but ideally I would have a chair I like at home.
120fps I have no experience with, but I would imagine it's closer to video quality. Once you're used to watching everything in 4K, probably it feels frustrating to watch a 1080p video. But when 4K did not exist, it was not a need. I actively try to not get used to 4K because I don't want to "create the need" for it :-).
I don't even like using "natural" keyboards despite the ergonomic advantage because it ruins my muscle memory when I'm on the (much more prevalent) "regular" keyboard.
I mean let's not be hasty. Mechanical keyboards used to be just normal keyboards when computers were still computers.
That is a fair argument. I don't know why they dropped out of favour - price? Noise?
My guess would be price. Shoppers probably got more sensitive to the price of a keyboard as the price of computers dropped, and approximately none of them were choosing between two computer-bundles at the store with any regard for keyboard quality.
No, jj is super simple in daily use, in contrast with git that is a constant chore (and any sane person use alias). This include stuff that in git is a total mess of complexity like dealing with rebases. So not judge the tool for this odd case.
> in contrast with git that is a constant chore (and any sane person use alias)
I don't use aliases, I guess I'm insane?
Also 99.9% of the time, git "just works" for me. If I need to do something special once a year, I can search for it. Like I would with jujutsu.
One rarely needs more from git than `git add -A && git commit -m`.
I rebase stacked diffs all the time so jj makes my life so much easier because its rebasing is much more ergonomic than git.
I don’t understand how people can remember all these custom scripting languages. I can’t even remember most git flags, I’m ecstatic when I remember how to iterate over arrays in “jq”, I can’t fathom how people remember these types of syntaxes.
I am convinced that the vast majority of professionals simply don't bother to remember and, ESPECIALLY WITH GIT, just look stuff up every single time the workflow deviates from their daily usage.
At this point perhaps a million person-years have been sacrificed to the semantically incoherent shit UX of git. I have loathed git from the beginning but there's effectively no other choice.
That said, the OP's commands are useful, I am copying them (because obviously I won't ever memorize them).
> At this point perhaps a million person-years have been sacrificed to the semantically incoherent shit UX of git. I have loathed git from the beginning but there's effectively no other choice.
Yes! We mostly wouldn’t tolerate the complexity and the terrible UX of a tool we use everyday--but there's enough Stockholm Syndrome out there where most of us are willing to tolerate it.
Unless you're aware that such powerful commands are something you need once in a blue moon, and then you're grateful that the tool is flexible enough to allow them in the first place.
Git may be sharp and unwieldy, but it's also one of the decreasing amount of tools we still use - the trend of turning tools into toys consumed the regular user market and is eating into tech software as well.
> I am convinced that the vast majority of professionals simply don't bother to remember and, ESPECIALLY WITH GIT, just look stuff up every single time the workflow deviates from their daily usage.
I wrote a cheat sheet in my notes of common commands, until they stuck in my head and I haven't needed it now for a decade or more. I also lean heavily on aliases and "self-documenting" things in my .bashrc file. Curious how others handle it. A search every time I need to do something would be too much friction for me to stand.
I refuse to have alises and other custom commands. Either it is useful for everyone and so I make a change to the upstream project (I have never done this), or it won't exist next time I change my system so there is no point. I do have some custom tools that I am working on that haven't been released yet, but the long term goal is either delete them or release them to more people who will use them so I know it will be there next time I use a different system.
I just use Claude Code as a terminal for git these days. It writes up better commit messages than I would write anyway. No more "git commit -m fix"
indeed, I held off for a while but finally caved because I got sick of seeing commits with `git commit -m .` littered in there. These are personal projects so I'm the only one dev-ing on them, but still so nice to have commit messages.
I just use my ide integrations for git. I absolutely love the way pycharm/jetbrains does it, and I'm starting to be ok with how vscode does. Remembering git commands besides the basics is just pointless. If I need to do something that the gui doesn't handle, I'll look it up and put it in a script.
I’ve recently been looking into some tools that provide quick or painless help like pop up snippets with descriptions and cheat sheets, got any recommendations?
Navi is good for generating personal cheatsheets:
https://github.com/denisidoro/navi
But for Git, I can't recommend lazygit enough. It's an incredible piece of software:
I've found tldr to be useful
The relevant XKCD comic https://xkcd.com/1597/
FWIW I too was once a "memorised a few commands and that was it" type of dev, then I read 3 chapters of the Git book https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2 (well really two, the first chapter was a "these are things you already know") and wow did my life with git change.
I don't, I will google things and fiddle, then put it in a git alias (with a comment on what it does and / or where I got it from) and push it to my private dotfiles repo, taking it with me between computers and projects.
You research it once, use it and then remember that it has "ancestor" in the command somewhere and then use ctrl + R to dig up something from your shell history.
jj's template and revset languages are very simple syntactically, so once you're comfortable with the few things you do use often it's just a question of learning about the other existing functions (even if only enough to know to look them up), which slot right in and compose well with everything else you know (unlike flags which typically have each their own system).
Or, perhaps better yet, defining your own functions/helpers as you go for things you might care about, which, by virtue of having been named you, are much easier to remember (and still compose nicely).
Some things are idioms that one repeats so often they just stick, e.g. I use "grep.... | cut -c x-y | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr" to quickly grep frequency of some events from a log file.
Don't feel bad - no one remembers them all, we just remember a few idioms we use...
People naturally remember what they use frequently. For things they use infrequently, they search on-line and/or read the friendly manual.
And yes, I'm also ecstatic when I manage to iterate over anything in `jq` without giving up and reaching for online reference. For `git`, functionality I use divides neatly into "things I do at least every week or two" and "things that make me reach for the git book every single time".
I mean, that was true until ~year or so. Now, I just have an LLM on speed dial. `howto do xyz in $tool`, `wtf is git --blah`, `oneliner for frobbing the widget`, etc.
> I don’t understand how people can remember all these custom scripting languages.
We can't.
Why do you think the `man` command exists?
Same, but now with AI I don't have to remember that anymore
For now - the law of enshittification means that the free/cheap access to AI will be curtailed soon enough.
Pretty much any OS locally runnable LLM can generate this stuff.
Nobody does. One person figures it out, then writes a blog post, and we all Google for it. Even git’s man pages are long and sometimes cryptic.
If I look something up twice, I record it in Obsidian. If I need it more than a couple of times, I'll probably make an alias, a script or a mask [1] file. Autocomplete and autosuggest are essential to my workflow. And good history search.
So, how does one iterate over an array in jq? Asking for a friend.
Yeah especially with git. All I know is pull, add, commit, push. Everything else I have to look up.
You and me both. Git is just so prevalent and fundamental to so much these days that I forced myself to use only a cheat sheet lying on my desk until I could comfortably use a reasonably productive subset by memory. Little did I know that that would make my colleagues think I'm some sort of git sage.
But jq I use maybe once a week, and it just won't stick. Same for any git features beyond basic wrangling of the history tree (but, on the flip side, that basic wrangling has eliminated 99% of the times I have to look things up).
You add them into your GIT config file as shortcuts?
If you have multiple machines (/must have), just apply your user config to current machine?
If you don't have to codedive new projects all the time, there's zero reason to memorize these. If your job is to look at new codebases all the time, you probably learn to remember these commands pretty quickly.
Saw all the replies crying over how verbose these are, clicked through to TFA expecting to see simpler commands. Nope, they're basically the same thing, just slightly shorter. I would never memorize either the jj or git versions if I planned to use them regularly; I'd make aliases.
a project isn’t dying because of no commits. Rather it’s stable
I often feel I need to setup bots to make superfluous commits just to make it look like my useful and stable repos are “active”
One example (not mine) a a qr-code generator library. Hasn’t been updated in 10 years. It’s perfect as is. It just provides the size and the bits. You convert those bits to any representation you want. It has no need to be updated
It's rare, I think, for a project to have such a well defined and singular purpose that has not changed in 10 years nor have any bugs been discovered or its dependencies changed underneath it.
It's not impossible, of course, but if I saw even a qr library that hadn't changed in 10 years I would worry that it wouldn't build on current systems (due to dependencies) and that nobody was actually using it (due to lag of bug reports).
I have several of those projects. I avoid dependencies as much as possible, striving to only use things which I know ship with my target OS. I code for a level of correctness and longevity. That benefits everyone, including myself.
A QR (or barcode) library is exactly the type of thing I’d assume would still work fine, since there’s nothing new to do, the parsing rules don’t change, it’s a static, known, solved problem.
> A QR (or barcode) library is exactly the type of thing I’d assume would still work fine, since there’s nothing new to do, the parsing rules don’t change, it’s a static, known, solved problem.
I agree with you - and yet the barcode library I used recently for a variable-data-printing project was last updated 13 hours ago, despite having been around since 2008!
Well said. Even an awesome library with no bugs that has no external dependencies still depends on the stdlib. For a while, before we were using containers, we even had the issue on Mac dev machines especially, where a half dozen Rubygems would crash while building its C extensions if your Mac OS version wasn’t just what the author expected, due to changes in the compiler shipped by Apple. So a MacOS major update might on its own functionally break a gem, even if the gem itself was designed well and you were using the same Ruby version.
In a real company? A private codebase at a minimum should still be getting regular security patching and dependency updates. Always eventually one of those updates requires some level of refactor. If I see a project with no commits, I run away.
This might be true for libraries or utilities that have a well-defined scope and no dependencies, but that's not what the article is focused on. When considering a company's main product, it's usually never done and patterns of activity—and especially changes in those patterns—can give you insight into potential issues.
> a project isn’t dying because of no commits. Rather it’s stable
Agreed. Assuming there are no open issues and PRs. When I find a project, if the date of the last commit is old, I next look at the issues and PRs. If there are simple-to-deal-with issues (e.g. a short question or spam) and easy-to-merge PRs (e.g. fixing a typo in the README) which have been left lingering for years, it’s probably abandoned. Looking at the maintainer’s GitHub activity graph should provide more clues.
> I often feel I need to setup bots to make superfluous commits just to make it look like my useful and stable repos are “active”
I have never done it, but a few times thought about making a “maintenance” release to bump the version number and release date, especially since I often use a variant of calendar versioning.
I don't want to program git, I want to get stuff done so I would reject using that tool and do what the article author did running tried and true pipeable Linux/UNIX commands. It's also the same reason why I dislike Gradle and use Maven, I don't want to program my build I want to define and run my build.
But the git commands in the article is also programming of the same kind, just using more terse, more obscure language. All the shell pipelines are sort, uniq, and grep.
A language that properly maps to the data model, and has readable identifiers is a boon. Git is a database, a database needs a proper query language.
Not interested, thank you.
Hah someone really looked at jq (?) and thought: "yes, more of this everywhere". I feel jq is like marmite (edit: aka vegemite, i.e. "you either love it or you hate it")
It doesn't seem any more egregious than something like:
`git log --color --graph --pretty=format:'%Cred%h%Creset -%C(yellow)%d%Creset %s %Cgreen(%cr) %C(bold blue)<%an>%Creset' --abbrev-commit --`
Which is something I see a lot of people alias in Git for viewing logs.
It's really not that bad, although the jq comparison might be apt. You have such primitives you need to understand, and then everything just fits together nicely. I find this much easier to write and understand than git's cryptic format strings.
Disclaimer: I love jq too :)
I can't remember all of this, does anyone know of any LLM model trained on CLI which can be run locally?
If you copy those commands into a file and use that file to prompt the “sh” LLM.
That works until you need a small variation of any of these commands and you’re lost.
Not a model, but a product: warp.dev
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