Impeccable Style

impeccable.style

98 points

noemit

4 days ago


54 comments

Antibabelic 21 hours ago

"Great design prompts require design vocabulary. Most people don't have it."

Vocabulary is just the surface. Beneath it is an understanding of how to achieve your goals with design. How to make things that are easy to use, accessible, that create a certain impression.

Does this website (presumably made with the help of these AI tools) show this kind of understanding of design? Not really. It's chaotic, the text is often hard to read and there is a ton of fluff, both in terms of visuals and copy.

There is a "Frequently Asked Questions" section and a "Popular" $100 tier in the "Support the Project" section, even though this project seems to be brand new. Why lie to the reader?

  • s1mplicissimus 21 hours ago

    I was about to make a similar comment. The before/after showcases look in many cases harder to grasp and navigate on the after side.

    Roundabout what I would expect as a result from the prompt "make a website that demonstrates how LLMs can better designs"

  • BeetleB 17 hours ago

    > Does this website (presumably made with the help of these AI tools) show this kind of understanding of design? Not really. It's chaotic, the text is often hard to read and there is a ton of fluff, both in terms of visuals and copy.

    I agree. I tried figuring it out for 1-2 minutes, and then closed the tab.

  • turnsout 19 hours ago

    > Vocabulary is just the surface.

    Yes, but with LLMs, sometimes simply mentioning the right words is enough to prime the model in the direction you want to take it. If you start a prompt talking about leading and type pairings, it will take greater care with typography. You don't need to be an expert typographer to take advantage of this phenomenon.

    • Antibabelic 19 hours ago

      How will an LLM "take greater care with typography" if it can't see the page it is creating? How will it "improve" leading if you need a human to see that there's too much distance between lines or too little?

      • mr_mitm 18 hours ago
        2 more

        With playwright, it can see what it is creating. Unsurprisingly, it works much better if you hook it up to a browser.

        • throwup238 18 hours ago

          There's also the Claude extension for Chrome which integrates with Claude Code.

      • turnsout 18 hours ago

        I'm assuming this is in the context of an agent that can see what it's doing. And I wouldn't assume humans have a monopoly on judging leading.

      • mock-possum 18 hours ago

        Because humans have already annotated diagrams and examples of what ‘too much’ and ‘too little’ look like, and these have been incorporated into the model. It tries to reproduce the content that is associated with humans indicating that they are taking greater care, and that content has the ‘not too much / not too little’ judgement already baked into it.

  • lo_zamoyski 20 hours ago

    Or, said another way, vocabulary provides us with the words (semantics). You also need a grammar (syntax), which itself needs to be ordered toward an end (pragmatics).

    • Antibabelic 19 hours ago

      This isn't really what I said, and is considerably less clear. What I meant is that you can't boil design down to certain stylistic flourishes and words denoting them (e.g. "vertical rhythm", to take an example from the linked page). Whatever you're doing, it involves understanding how the viewer will react to what you will show them and why.

Thorrez 17 minutes ago

The before/after box is not well designed. How am I supposed to tell which side is before and which side is after? They're apparently color-coded based on the color circles next to the labels, but the actual content doesn't seem to have anything matching that color code, so I can't tell which label goes with which side.

zparky 21 hours ago

Let me pull out my 5000 px tall monitor so I can see the examples further down the page. impeccable style, really

  • ffaser5gxlsll 20 hours ago

    I had to go back and check, with "modern invisible scrollbars", and those useless theme settings at the bottom I assumed the page was just some css demo that ended there and left.

davidivadavid 21 hours ago

Concept seems fun, and I'm expecting we'll see a bunch of those in the next few weeks/months. UX of that specific page seems broken, however, as the container for the explanation of each "function" doesn't scroll along with the rest of the content (stays stuck at the top) and makes it impossible to see.

  • pierrec 20 hours ago

    I can confirm the broken UI. The demo container disappears as you scroll down, leaving a blank space that takes up most of the screen. I want to make a snarky joke about this but I'm just tired at this point.

fxtentacle 18 hours ago

Let's call it "form over function."

That landing page example is devastatingly bad. You start with a page that has usage numbers, uptime, support 24/7 and a customer rating above the fold. You end up with a page that lacks all of these advantage and instead looks bland and has horrible typography and even less text contrast.

In line with that, the Dashboard looks more organized in the "after" picture, but that's because it lost most of its useful information.

wackget 19 hours ago

The "Before" examples look infinitely better than the "After" examples. Tells you all you need to know. Wouldn't be at all surprised if this whole thing was a ridiculous joke or a satirical commentary on pretentious design.

  • hyperhello 18 hours ago

    Define “better”. Some people actually prefer to wake up and make toast and eggs and coffee in their own kitchen, instead of just buying affordable, professionally barista-assembled grab-and-go from the tone-balanced local Starbucks on the way to work. It’s a deviant preference, really.

zx0r4 21 hours ago

I like the idea of this, but in the examples I thought the "Before" looked much better on all 3...

  • dionian 20 hours ago

    It was especially jarring on the last example with the cool looking chart, then removed for a bunch of text.

    • ssgodderidge 19 hours ago

      agreed, the information density on the "after" example is much worse for most dashboard use cases. Way too much space, not enough info. But I guess I'm not exactly surprised based on the style of the page being both zoomed in and spaced out

hebejebelus 19 hours ago

Putting aside the execution:

It's interesting to see people creating and 'selling' agent skills. This one asks for donations, but I was expecting to see a stripe link and 'download for 4 dollars, yours forever' (personally I think that would convert better...)

I wonder if there will be full-blown skill marketplaces soon. Would that be a way for some experts to recoup some (presumably very small portion) of the income they might lose due to generative AI market effects?

taco_emoji 21 hours ago

i do not understand what this even is. Some stylesheets? What am I even downloading when I click "download"?

  • LollipopYakuza 19 hours ago

    Come one, there are things to say about this project but the Download section is pretty clear. It installs commands for your LLMs and AI-based IDE. It states that clearly in the section.

    If you’re not familiar with what a /command is in the context of LLM, this may just not be for you and that's fine, but the purpose is clearly stated.

  • c-fe 20 hours ago

    I was about to write the same. I scrolled through it but I dont understand what it is.

  • barrenko 20 hours ago

    To get something usable out of an LLM (aka vibecooding, vibe engineering et al), it works best if you're an expert yourself -> a.k.a you need to know the "lingo".

    So there's the possibility of skipping the intermediate work in between by exposing yourself to just the input and the output of the process for certain domains, this is for frontend I think.

  • recursive 19 hours ago

    More vibe coding stuff.

apsv 21 hours ago

replacing a metrics dashboard with text is one of the choices you could make

Dansvidania 18 hours ago

I tried having it critique my personal project and the feedback I got feels good. I have 0 design experience, so I think it can only improve things.

drcongo a day ago

I had to triple check which was which in the `BEFORE` and `AFTER` examples, because I can see an awful lot of things that it's made worse.

  • lelandfe 21 hours ago

    The Form UX one is hilarious. It took a streamlined form used to convert and added enormous marketing copy that's more attention grabbing than the form itself. If you look closely they ran the `/simplify` command, haha.

    The dashboard might even be funnier, though.

    And this is what the creator chose to demo.

    • b450 18 hours ago

      This is the most egregious one in my eyes, too. I've run A/B tests on a few signup forms and without fail it validates the standard practice: the lowest drop-off rate comes from removing every possible obstacle and distraction. I'd bet a few dollars (which is as much as I'll ever bet) that design update would perform worse. The tool is almost intriguing as a _reductio_ of certain design practices.

      The "after" designs all replace the rather generic "SV startup with a tailwind UI" with this serif font, parchment color look. It looks very similar to Anthropic's branding. I guess it looks marginally more distinctive? Though it seems to replace one knock-off visual identity for another. But the claim is that the tool here is implementing best practices through a sophisticated "design vocabulary", and in that sense the examples strike me as manifest failures. I find the general legibility of the "before" designs to be much better.

    • drcongo 18 hours ago

      In all three cases, it also seems to have taken the brand guidelines, ripped them up, set fire to them, and then pissed on them.

  • dickiedyce 21 hours ago

    I'm glad it's not just me. One would hope that `BEFORE` and `AFTER` would imply `WORSE` and `BETTER`, but from their examples they somehow they managed to shoehorn `MEH` in there.

    And if they need to explain it... ;-)

    Tufte it isn't.

  • Torwald 21 hours ago

    I agree. That thing made all the designs worse.

    I think the difficulty for AI to learn this, in general, is the missing out of the day-to-day experience living as a human, because that is what shapes our viewing habits. And those are what a good graphic design interacts with.

raylad 14 hours ago

"DON'T use pure white or pure black..."

This is something I hate: gray text. Designers love it but it is often very illegible because of inadequate contrast.

bleudeballe 20 hours ago

From the authors website:

Renaissance Geek (noun)

A person who moves fluidly between art, technology, narrative, and systems — guided by curiosity instead of specialization.

With AI as their amplifier, this breadth makes them dangerous enough to build the future rather than be shaped by it.

  • hyperhello 18 hours ago

    And I thought that was an adverb. I’ve been making an idiot out of myself.

imadr 20 hours ago

What does this even do? Read most of the page but still didn't understand the project actually is

  • arm32 19 hours ago

    It's a bunch of markdown files.

amelius 18 hours ago

How is AI going to make a great design if it can't even draw a penguin on a bicycle?

ninalanyon 19 hours ago

impeccable (adj.)

Of user interface style: low contrast and hence poor readability, with excessive white space.

  • HPsquared 19 hours ago

    Synonyms: inscrutable, unreadable, inaccessible

ravenical 20 hours ago

Love it when the design tool breaks halfway down the page.

Normal_gaussian 17 hours ago

The dark theme is sooo bad for this page.

malcolmxxx 17 hours ago

This is why aliens won't talk to us.

Atomic_Torrfisk 14 hours ago

What a tittle, almost makes you feel good for vibe coding out slop without knowing half of what is going on. What are even the examples marginal css changes on already perfectly good designs?

If you want to look at the bright side, this design guide will be easier to spot SAAS, slop as a service.

vonunov 20 hours ago

> no /pop command

  • bradleyy 19 hours ago

    Best comment.

cbeach 19 hours ago

They set themselves up for a fall when they named themselves "Impeccable Style"

The mix of sans and serif fonts on their website is a mess. There's too much negative space, and it's inconsistent. Too many font sizes, and some that are so tiny they're illegible.

In the landing page before/after example, I think the "before" design looks more appealing.