Why clowns paint their faces on eggs (2017)

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3 months ago


29 comments

bombcar 3 months ago

I should have known Pratchett's Hall of Faces in the Fools' Guild was based on something real.

https://wiki.lspace.org/Hall_of_Faces

(There's a lot of money to be made in repackaging Britain to be sold to Americans as "high fantasy", btw.)

  • notatoad 3 months ago

    >There's a lot of money to be made in repackaging Britain to be sold to Americans as "high fantasy", btw.

    or at least, there is if you're as good at it as Terry Pratchett was.

  • ajb 3 months ago

    I think he liked doing that, there are so many examples of things that seem made up, but then you find they aren't. Making perfume from whale vomit, for example.

    • mattmanser 3 months ago

      Liked? That was his thing. Every single book was a piss-take of something from the real world.

      He often took real occupations and set them in his fantasy world to satirize them.

      His humour was to take something from our world, put it in discworld, and then point out how ridiculous it all was.

      What always amazed me was the diverseness of it. Whether he was taking the mickey out of hollywood, newspapers, rock music, somophore, stamp collecting, he seemed to have an eclectic knowledge about so much.

      But not savagely, it was with the gentle fondness that underlies the best humour of friends ribbing each other.

      • pdpi 3 months ago
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        One of the important features of satire is that you kind of need to really, deeply, fundamentally get the thing you’re satirising. Which makes it even more insane how he managed to satirise so many different topics.

        • bombcar 3 months ago

          He also developed an appreciation and love for the things satired; you can see it in the development of characters over time, many started out as a one-dimensional parody and grew to be actual characters with depths, while still remaining true to the original parody.

      • mattkevan 3 months ago

        I learned a lot of history, politics and folklore reading Pratchett’s books. If he mentioned something specific I generally found it was real or at least echoed something real.

        His knowledge, wisdom and love of humanity was something special.

      • redwall_hp 3 months ago

        There are random computing references stuffed into Discworld too.

        Granny Weatherwax lives around a mountain range called the Ramtops, after RAMTOP on the ZX Spectrum.

        The Clacks optical telegraph network can contain routing instructions in its messages, and its operators basically have a hacker culture. They also have a group called "the smoking GNU," with GNU being a set of instructions for the message routing.

        The wizards have a computer named Hex, which is powered by ants that move data around, so it has a label that says "Anthill Inside."

      • ajb 3 months ago

        I meant specifically the ones where it's so obscure that you only find out it was real later. But yeah he was amazing at satire across the board.

    • jauco 3 months ago

      My favourite are the wee free men.

      They’re not pixies, but pictsies. Their accent is a bit Scottish. They seem to have blue colored skin, but actually those are tattoos and they believe they’re currently in the afterlife (and must have been really nice persons in their previous actual life because they’re convinced they’re currently in heaven)

      I always found that a bit lame and over the top.

      The I learned that in northern england there once lived a keltic clan called the Picts. They were covered in blue tattoos and the kelts famously believed they lived in the afterlife and life was so good they were convinced they lived in heaven.

      • gilleain 3 months ago

        Er, not really in 'Northern England', the Picts lived in what is now Scotland.

        My favourite aspects of the pictsies ('Nac Mac Feegle') was their fear of writing, given its association with lawyers.

      • 0xdeadbeefbabe 3 months ago
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        I don't know the name of the phenomenon, but in fiction if you take stuff from real life especially peoples names it makes for unbelievable fiction.

        • jhp123 3 months ago
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          Tiffany Effect

          • milliams 3 months ago

            Even more appropriate as the main character of The Wee Free Men is called Tiffany Aching.

    • nullhole 3 months ago

      Ah, precious hamburgers

  • scotty79 3 months ago

    > There's a lot of money to be made in repackaging Britain to be sold to Americans as "high fantasy", btw.

    Witcher is repackaging motifs from old Slavic legends with modern twists.

  • wccrawford 3 months ago

    1987 to 1993 isn't a ton of time. It's possible he actually did come up with it himself, and it happened to mirror reality.

    The 1946 version of the collection was just someone's hobby.

    • thaumasiotes 3 months ago

      No, the 1946 version of the collection became a recognized registry decades before 1987. From the link in the article, the April 1957 issue of Mechanix Illustrated:

      > As secretary of the European division of the [International Circus Clown Club] Bult keeps a file of faces so that clowns can avoid copying each other. Each clown's make-up is his professional, jealously guarded property.

      Just this one half-paragraph seems like enough to define the Hall of Faces.

croisillon 3 months ago

As referenced in an Avengers episode: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0516859/ (season 7 @rwmj)

  • chadcmulligan 3 months ago

    I am currently watching all the episodes haven't got to season 7 yet, so something to look forward to. There's some great viewing in them, glad I'm not the only one.

    • croisillon 3 months ago

      i must confess i never saw the ones with Honor Blackman, it's on my todo list!

      • chadcmulligan 3 months ago

        Yeah I've watched some of them, I find them hard to watch they're just not the same. The jump in style between those and the Emma Peel years is remarkable. As a friend pointed out to me Emma Peel = M Appeal, or Men Appeal, this was intentional he states, not sure if it's true or not.

  • GJim 3 months ago

    > season 7

    Series 7

    The Americans divide their TV into seasons. We don't do that in Blighty.

    • croisillon 3 months ago

      oh really? never knew that, thanks!

scotty79 3 months ago

> operates outside the courts and is not enforced by lawyers, which makes the practice particularly interesting to legal scholars like us

That sounds terribly ominous ... Like lawyers are continuously searching for human activities to attach to and leech from.

dvh 3 months ago

Do you like clowns?

  • eleveriven 3 months ago

    Clowns bring joy with their antics